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Horsepower sells cars, Torque wins races.
1981 Camaro. 10.30's@130 mph.
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I took the car in for the initial alignment because it was pulling to the left and the shop performed a 4 wheel alignment. The pulling was still there and the shop said there was nothing wrong with the car. Later, I had the car in a Toyota dealership for other work and asked them to recheck the alignment while they were servicing the car. The Toyota mechanic said there was nothing wrong with the car. ( It's starting to sound like me and not the car huh?) As a last ditch effort, I took the car to yet another shop which I have used in the past and they did another 4 wheel alignment and rotated the tires. Ok, so now I believe that the car alignment is set to factory specs as verified by 3 competent mechanics. But, at 55 mph, if I let go of the steering wheel, the car will do a fast lane change. I apologize for my persistance but I simply cannot believe that any car would be normal and pull to the left like this. I have done some research on the Camry's and it seems that quite a few of them pull to the left. I would accept it as normal except for the fact that I have now stumbled across a Toyota TSB and Toyota acknowledges that the pull is not normal. For this reason, Toyota has issued TSB #ST002-04 and I am trying to get a copy of that TSB. Apparently, it addresses checking the alignment, rotating the tires and lastly adjusting the front spring perches. Obviously, I have taken care of the alignment and the rotation. According to the TSB, the last thing I need to do is rotate the spring perches but without the TSB, I do not know how much to rotate the perches.
OK, I have avoided this question, but you make that hard to maintain......why are you bouncing from shop to shop? Looking for the one with the answer? Have the rest all given up on your problem? All I can figure is the pull is bad enough to make you pursue a cure.
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Chalk is your friend.
Posted 10 July 2014 - 09:03 AM
Having done alignments for 27 years myself, I'd have a few ideas:
1) You're imagining it. Pulling left is a rare complaint, as the road crown that lets water slope off to the right side also tends to make vehicles drift right. Its so slight on most roads as to be unnoticeable, but its still the "default" direction for a pull. You say you've come across it in several Camrys...I work in a Toyota shop and and haven't seen it in any that I can recall.
2) The steering wheel is crooked. Most pulling complaints I get on passenger cars are really crooked steering wheel complaints. People naturally want to hold the steering wheel in a centered position, whether they realize it or not, and the direction the car goes when the wheel is centered is the direction the vehicle "pulls". This is common enough that I gave up explaining or arguing about it years ago. Customer says it pulls? Of course it pulls - then I go and set toe, straighten the steering wheel, and its miraculously fixed. A real pull is almost always caster (if not a tire), and caster is non-adjustable on just about every FWD car made since the 80's.
3) Your camber split is off. I've seen this many times on Subarus, several times on Hondas, and not at all on Toyotas, but it is possible. To compensate for road crown you want a slightly higher camber reading on the left. If the left side camber is too much higher it can cause a pull to the left. I believe on that year there is a camber adjustment built into the strut, or enough slop in the bolts to make an adjustment anyway, or enough play in the subframe mounts to make the adjustment one way or another. So it could be done, but that you'd get 4 alignments and no one would bother wouldn't be surprising. The numbers can be in spec - "in the green" on the printout - and that's all most guys look for. Alignments can be a pain enough for guys that don't have a lot of experience, and going the extra mile is a rare thing. Sometimes it sucks to be the customer.
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