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#1 Laurie

 
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Posted 27 February 2011 - 05:29 PM

Looking for a good RELIABLE car that will last many miles. I came across this 2008 Volvo S60 with 28,000 miles on it. Currently own an 2001 Infiniti I30 with over 200,000 miles on it (yes, I drive them until they drop). Does this Volvo have the same expected lifespan as the Infiniti? Currently considering a 2009 Nissan Altima also with 20,000 miles on it. Both have good safety features ... but I want a car that I can run into the ground ... thoughts?? I respect the experts here as you helped me several years ago with great insights :) Thanks, Laurie :D

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Posted 27 February 2011 - 09:11 PM

I do not see a problem getting that many miles out of a Volvo with regular 3 K LOF's and proper treatment. Heck, my Escort that i sold with 200 K on it 4 years ago is still rolling. Now with about 265 K on it. Volvo's are known for their safety, longevity, and reliability. I do not see an issue here. They may not be all that hip or stylish, but who cares? The Nissan would also be a good choice. My brother works for a Nissan store. His wife owns an Altima. And i do not think he would put her into that if he didn't care for her safety. Maybe a Versa if he wanted to do her in............................ :lol: But if those 2 choices were mine, i would go with the Volvo. I think they have more interior room. And seem to be a little more sturdier, and might be able to take a little more abuse. In my opinion. And granted, that is just an opinion. B)

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 07:54 AM

I do not see a problem getting that many miles out of a Volvo with regular 3 K LOF's and proper treatment. Heck, my Escort that i sold with 200 K on it 4 years ago is still rolling. Now with about 265 K on it.

Volvo's are known for their safety, longevity, and reliability. I do not see an issue here. They may not be all that hip or stylish, but who cares?

The Nissan would also be a good choice. My brother works for a Nissan store. His wife owns an Altima. And i do not think he would put her into that if he didn't care for her safety. Maybe a Versa if he wanted to do her in............................ :lol:

But if those 2 choices were mine, i would go with the Volvo. I think they have more interior room. And seem to be a little more sturdier, and might be able to take a little more abuse. In my opinion. And granted, that is just an opinion. B)



Thank you for taking the time to reply. I will go and test drive this week. Both cars are the same price so I am trying to make the "smart" purchase. I appreciate and understand that this is strictly an opinion - but I also appreciate the EDUCATED opinions here and never trust the salesman's opinion :D

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Posted 28 February 2011 - 06:12 PM

Trust a salesman. That is too rich. :lol: You have to remember something. A salesman makes his paycheck off of you. It is not in his best interests to sell you something that fits you. It is in his best interests to sell you what he has on the lot. And usually the vehicle(s) he is trying to unload on you are the ones he will make the most commission on, and the ones that have been in inventory the longest. The vehicles with all the bells and whistles come to mind. More options, more money. When i was shopping for my car 4 years ago, i knew what i wanted, what options, (almost none), the color, etc. I did my internet homework prior to dealing with Beavis and Butt-Head. Most stores either didn't want to order up the vehicle as i requested, or wanted to unload their present stock on me. And i had to go to 4 different stores to indeed get what i wanted. Car shopping sucks.

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Posted 05 March 2011 - 08:15 PM

Trust a salesman. That is too rich. :lol: You have to remember something. A salesman makes his paycheck off of you. It is not in his best interests to sell you something that fits you. It is in his best interests to sell you what he has on the lot. And usually the vehicle(s) he is trying to unload on you are the ones he will make the most commission on, and the ones that have been in inventory the longest.

The vehicles with all the bells and whistles come to mind. More options, more money.

When i was shopping for my car 4 years ago, i knew what i wanted, what options, (almost none), the color, etc. I did my internet homework prior to dealing with Beavis and Butt-Head.

Most stores either didn't want to order up the vehicle as i requested, or wanted to unload their present stock on me. And i had to go to 4 different stores to indeed get what i wanted.

Car shopping sucks.



Well today was TEST DRIVE day. I decided that the S60 is very very tight in the back seats. Okay for little kids but very uncomfortable for adults. So .... back to the Altima. The back seat is spacious and the car handled great. Now, the only problem is that all the consumer reports info indicates that the '08 Altima has serious brake issues. People on Edmunds forum say they are replacing the pads and rotors at an excessive rate - first replacement at 2400 miles. One woman has replaced them 3 times at 36,000 miles. She even opted for ceramic pads to get 12,000 out of each replacement. That doesn't sound good to me. I will have to ask in the Nissan forum why this seems to be a new issue and more important how to prolong the life of these brakes.


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Posted 06 March 2011 - 05:51 PM

Usually when a set of front brakes wear out prematurely, the cause can be rear brakes not working correctly. Or at all. This in turn makes the front brakes do all the work. If that is not the case, and there isn't a rear brake problem, then yes, it is time to zero in on the fronts as being the issue. When i was having similar front brake trouble with my 1996 Ford Escort, i got a set of Summit Racing's cross drilled rotors, and their matching ceramic brake pads. End of my problems. Prior to that, i was warping out the front brake rotors every 10 K. With genuine Ford OEM parts. My constant Chicago city driving tore that car up. Some people think that ceramic brake pads alone will be the fix. Not so. The heat has to be removed. Drilled and slotted rotors do just that, in conjunction with the ceramic pads.

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Posted 15 November 2011 - 02:01 PM

The Altima is a brake eater. Once in a while, the manufacturers come out with a car that either has too small rotors or a poorly balanced brake bias, and they reward the customer by going through brake pads like they were free cookies. I remember back in the early '90's GM had the Chevy Corsica and Beretta. Not really bad cars, but they came out of the factory with 90% of the brake bias on the front wheels. We used to see them burning up rotors and eating up a set of pads in less than 9000 miles. GM came out with a revised proportioning valve, and the brake problem "went away".... Which is probably what the Altima needs....But don't expect the Japanese to step up and offer to fix the problem for you....In their opinion, the car was perfect when it left the factory.
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Posted 16 November 2011 - 10:58 PM

Just don't buy a Ford. You'd be better off with a Yugo than a Ford.

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 09:52 PM

Just had to check in - on a thread called "reliability" in the Volvo slot! I've had a couple of older Volvos, a 140 and a 164, very high mileage ones, that were reliable enough depending on how much time I spent replacing things. The 140 wasn't bad up to 300k miles, but the 164 wore out just about everything, every bushing in the engine and the suspension by 160k. And the transmission, and the differential...I fiinally got rid of it when I sat down and figured out how much money i had in it, and how bad the mileage still was.

 

My old bosses dad bought a 2000 S90 (if  I remember the model right) with 70k on it. First month he had it the engine light came on, and led to a whole series of repairs including a new cylinder head. Apparently the metal used for the valve seats had a problem (you would think by now they'd have that kind of thing figured out) and there was an updated version - no factory help, of course. Little things like that lose you trust and customers, $3000 later. My dad had a 960 that overheated once from a bad thermostat, and wound up with $4000 in a new cylinder head and engine work.

 

I tend to think the Hondas and Toyotas and the more reliable cars, and much cheaper to maintain.



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Posted 12 July 2014 - 08:40 AM

Reliable would be the GM transmissions that are great in GM's but due to Volvo's insufficient transmission cooling ability and shitty Swedish programming, they always blew up... Funny how the GM Hydramatic's in the BMW's are just fine. I guess the krauts don't have the same problems...


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